Agp Universal Slot
Version 2.0 of AGP was powered by 1.5 V, and AGP 2.0 'universal' connectors which could support either voltage were released. AGP version 3.0, released in 2002, doubled the speed of AGP 2.0 with a new AGP 8x mode.
- The AGP slots In fig 1.1 is a typical AGP Pro Universal slot on a motherboard. We have pointed out the alignment keys, which, in conjunction with the alignment notches on the AGP/AGP Pro video card ensures the card is installed correctly. The two extensions we have pointed out are used to provide extra power to the AGP Pro cards.
- AGP: This type of expansion slot was specifically designed to deal with graphics adapters. In fact, AGP stands for Accelerated Graphics Port.Older PCs may sport this expansion slot, but the best video cards use PCI Express.
AGP Compatibility: The Short Version
If an AGP card fits in an AGP expansion slot then they are compatible. But read the rest of this anyway. There are some rare exceptions where motherboard and video card manufacturers don't obey the rules.
AGP Compatibility: The Long Version
AGP Basics
In 1996, Intel introduced AGP 1.0. AGP was a modified version of PCI designed to speed up transfers to video cards. It was followed by AGP 2.0 in 1998 and AGP 3.0 in 2002. Each new version added new speeds and signaling voltages.
AGP Version | Signaling Voltage | Peak Speeds |
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AGP 1.0 | 3.3 Volts | 1X at 267MB/s, 2X at 533MB/s |
AGP 2.0 | 1.5 Volts | 1X at 267MB/s, 2X at 533MB/s, 4X at 1067MB/s |
AGP 3.0 | 0.8 Volts | 4X at 1067MB/s, 8X at 2133MB/s |
The signaling voltage is the voltage used to send data between the AGP card and the AGP motherboard. You can download the final AGP 3.0 specification from here. You may also want to look at the AGP 2.0 specification and the AGP Pro 1.1a specification.
AGP Connectors And Slots
Each AGP card has one or two slots in its card edge. If a video card has the 3.3 volt slot, then it can use 3.3 volt signaling. AGP 2.0 added the 1.5 volt slot on cards which could use 1.5 volt signaling. If the card has both slots then it can use both signaling voltages. AGP 3.0 added support for 0.8 volt signaling but it did not add a new kind of slot. If a video card supports either 1.5 volt or 0.8 volt signaling then it has the 1.5 volt slot.
The AGP connectors on the motherboard are keyed to prevent insertion of AGP cards which would be damaged if plugged in. An AGP 3.3V motherboard connector can only accept AGP cards which have the 3.3V slot. If you try to insert a card without a 3.3V slot into an AGP 3.3V motherboard connector, the card will bump into the connector key and cannot be inserted. Likewise an AGP 1.5V motherboard connector can only accept AGP cards with the 1.5V slot. An AGP universal motherboard connector has no keys and therefore can accept any kind of AGP card. An AGP card with both voltage slots can be plugged into any kind of AGP motherboard connector. If you can plug an AGP card into an AGP motherboard connector, then neither the card nor the motherboard will be damaged (assuming they obey the AGP specifications).
AGP Pro motherboard connectors were created to support video cards which use more power than a plain AGP connector can supply. There are extra connectors on both ends of an AGP Pro motherboard connector which allow an AGP Pro video card to draw more power. Plain AGP cards are fully compatible with AGP Pro motherboards, but it doesn't work the other way around. AGP motherboards are not compatible with AGP Pro video cards. High-end motherboards are often actually AGP Pro motherboards because they can accept both AGP cards and AGP Pro cards. But AGP Pro video cards are rarely seen outside the workstation market because they aren't compatible with AGP motherboards. Consumer-oriented video cards which need to draw lots of power usually require you to plug in a disk drive power supply cable. That way they can be compatible with all motherboards and still use lots of power.
Official AGP Compatibility
Graphics Card Types (table 16 from the AGP 3.0 specification) | ||
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Graphics Card Types | Connector Type | Description |
AGP 3.3V Card | 3.3V slot | Supports only 3.3V signaling. Available speeds 1x, 2x. |
AGP 1.5V Card | 1.5V slot | Supports only 1.5V signaling. Available speeds 1x, 2x, 4x. |
Universal AGP Card | Double slotted | Supports 3.3V and 1.5V signaling. Available speeds 1x, 2x at 3.3V and 1x, 2x, 4x at 1.5V. |
AGP 3.0 Card | 1.5V slot | Supports only 0.8V signaling. Available speeds 4x, 8x. |
Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Card | 1.5V slot | Supports 1.5V and 0.8V signaling. Available speeds 1x, 2x, 4x at 1.5V and 4x, 8x at 0.8V. |
Universal AGP 3.0 Card | Double slotted | Supports AGP 3.3v, 1.5V, and 0.8V signaling. Available speeds 1x, 2x at 3.3V and 1x, 2x, 4x at 1.5V and 4x, 8x at 0.8V. |
The table above gives Intel's official names for the various kinds of AGP cards allowed by the AGP specifications. Unfortunately, the technical specifications for a video card rarely use these terms properly (if at all) to describe the video card. They usually just list the fastest AGP multipliers it supports: '8X, 4X', or '4X'. From that information and the voltage slots on a picture of the video card, you can often figure out exactly what it is. I've seen plenty of video cards listed as 'AGP 3.0 cards' when in fact they are actually Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 cards. I've also seen cards listed as 'AGP 8X,4X 1.5 volt only' when there is really no such thing. What they are trying to tell you is that it's a Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Card and doesn't support 3.3 volts. It is required to support 0.8 volts if it supports 8X.
Motherboard Types (table 15 from the AGP 3.0 specification) | ||
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Motherboard Types | Connector Type | Description |
AGP 3.3V Motherboard | 3.3V keyed | Supports only 3.3V signaling. Available speeds 1x, 2x. |
AGP 1.5V Motherboard | 1.5V keyed | Supports only 1.5V signaling. Available speeds 1x, 2x, 4x. |
Universal AGP Motherboard | Universal | Supports both 3.3V and 1.5V signaling. Available speeds 1x, 2x at 3.3V and 1x, 2x, 4x at 1.5V. |
AGP 3.0 Motherboard | 1.5V keyed | Supports only 0.8V signaling. Additional electrical ID to prevent 1.5V operation. Available speeds 4x, 8x. |
Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard | 1.5V keyed | Supports 1.5V and 0.8V signaling. Available speeds 1x, 2x, 4x at 1.5V and 4x, 8x at 0.8V. |
Universal AGP 3.0 Motherboard | Universal | Supports 3.3V, 1.5V, and 0.8V signaling. Available speeds 1x, 2x at 3.3V and 1x, 2x, 4x at 1.5V and 4x, 8x at 0.8V. |
The table above gives Intel's official names for the various kinds of AGP motherboards allowed by the AGP specifications. The technical specifications for motherboards tend to be just as sloppy as they are for video cards. Sometimes they use the official motherboard type names properly and sometimes they do not.
Motherboard And Card Compatibility (table 35 from the AGP 3.0 specification) | ||||||
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AGP 3.3V Card | AGP 1.5V Card | Universal AGP Card | AGP 3.0 Card | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Card | Universal AGP 3.0 Card | |
AGP 3.3V Motherboard | Works at 3.3V | Won't fit in slot | Works at 3.3V | Won't fit in slot | Won't fit in slot | Works at 3.3V |
AGP 1.5V Motherboard | Won't fit in slot | Works at 1.5V | Works at 1.5V | Fits in slot but won't work. | Works at 1.5V | Works at 1.5V |
Universal AGP Motherboard | Works at 3.3V | Works at 1.5V | Works at 1.5V | Fits in slot but won't work | Works at 1.5V | Works at 1.5V |
AGP 3.0 Motherboard | Won't fit in slot | Fits in slot but won't work | Fits in slot but won't work | Works at 0.8V | Works at 0.8V | Works at 0.8V |
Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard | Won't fit in slot | Works at 1.5V | Works at 1.5V | Works at 0.8V | Works at 0.8V | Works at 0.8V |
Universal AGP 3.0 Motherboard | Works at 3.3V | Works at 1.5V | Works at 1.5V | Works at 0.8V | Works at 0.8V | Works at 0.8V |
The table above shows the results of all possible combinations of AGP cards and AGP motherboards.
Practical AGP Compatibility
The previous table shows that there are combinations of motherboards and video cards which can be plugged together but do not work. According to the AGP specifications there should be no damage, but the combination would not be compatible. You see people posting in forums worrying about this possibility all the time. There are also stories that you can get some 0.8 volt only cards which are willing to tolerate 1.5 volts but that you really shouldn't plug them into an AGP 4X motherboard even if they work. Given the previous table, the confusion is understandable. But there are two pieces of information which they're missing: nobody makes AGP 3.0 cards, and nobody makes AGP 3.0 motherboards. At least not any manufacturers I can find. Every single video card I could find which claimed to be an AGP 3.0 card was actually a universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 card. And every motherboard which claimed to be an AGP 3.0 motherboard turned out to be a universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 motherboard. It makes sense, if your think about it, because if anyone actually shipped a consumer-oriented product which supported only 0.8 volts, they would end up with lots of confused customers and a support nightmare. In the consumer market, you'd have to be crazy to ship a 0.8 volt only product. And as far as I can tell, there aren't any in the workstation market either. There may be some obscure product somewhere, but I sure can't find any. It's easy to find ones which are mislabeled as AGP 3.0 cards or motherboards but I haven't been able to find the actual item. If you remove the 0.8 volt only entries from the compatibility table, then you end up with the following table.
Practical Motherboard And Card Compatibility | |||||
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AGP 3.3V Card | AGP 1.5V Card | Universal AGP Card | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Card | Universal AGP 3.0 Card | |
AGP 3.3V Motherboard | Works at 3.3V | Won't fit in slot | Works at 3.3V | Won't fit in slot | Works at 3.3V |
AGP 1.5V Motherboard | Won't fit in slot | Works at 1.5V | Works at 1.5V | Works at 1.5V | Works at 1.5V |
Universal AGP Motherboard | Works at 3.3V | Works at 1.5V | Works at 1.5V | Works at 1.5V | Works at 1.5V |
Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard | Won't fit in slot | Works at 1.5V | Works at 1.5V | Works at 0.8V | Works at 0.8V |
Universal AGP 3.0 Motherboard | Works at 3.3V | Works at 1.5V | Works at 1.5V | Works at 0.8V | Works at 0.8V |
That's why 'If an AGP card fits in an AGP slot then they are compatible' is actually correct if you only consider stuff you can really buy.
One practical matter which must be considered is the fact that some of the original AGP 1.0 motherboards do not provide enough power to operate some newer AGP video cards reliably. For example, some of the original motherboards using the first chipsets which supported AGP (like the Intel 440LX and 440BX) can become unstable if you install video cards which draw lots of power through the AGP slot. The motherboards can't always supply the necessary current for the newer video cards. So if you're adding a video card to an AGP 1.0 motherboard then it's a good idea to install a video card which doesn't consume very much power.
You can also occasionally get memory resource conflicts by installing a new AGP video card into an old AGP 1.0 motherboard. The video card will work properly until you install the display driver. Once you try to install the driver, a memory conflict shows up. The range of conflicting addresses varies from case to case. This problem is very unusual and when it happens it is rarely possible to fix it. I'm not sure exactly what causes the problem but apparently the motherboard and the video card are incompatible in some way which prevents Windows from properly assigning memory addresses to the video card. In the cases I've seen, there doesn't seem to be any way to predict from the video card chipset and motherboard chipset whether there will be a problem. Sometimes a particular video card chipset and motherboard chipset get along well and other times they don't. I'd guess that it's some kind of incompatibility caused by an outdated motherboard BIOS and possibly the video card BIOS. The one thing you can try is to flash your motherboard with the most recent BIOS. But since it's an old motherboard, the manufacturer will most likely not have anything but old BIOSes available. If you're running Windows 95, 98, or ME, it may be possible to manually assign addresses and get it to work but I've seen people try this and the process is about as enjoyable as a root canal and usually fails to fully solve the problem anyway. If you're running Windows 2000 or XP then it's probably impossible to fix because the newer versions of Windows almost always prevent you from manually assigning addresses, IRQs, etc. That's almost always true even if you select the standard PC HAL while installing Windows with the hope that it will allow you to assign resources manually. If you run into one of these memory resource conflicts then you should probably give up and try a different video card. It's rarely fixable.
AGP Cards
The table below lists the AGP graphics card type for just about all of the consumer-oriented AGP graphics cards. Note the complete lack of 'AGP 3.0 Card' entries. The graphics chipset determines what kind of AGP card it is; not the brand of the video card. If you would like to know what kind of video card is in your computer, open the 'Control Panel' and double-click 'Display' to bring up the 'Display Properties' window. Then select the 'Settings' tab, click 'Advanced', and select the 'Adapter' tab. Sandra Lite can also give you very detailed information about your display adapter.
Sometimes manufacturers don't obey the rules. I found a video card which had incorrect voltage slots. It had only a 3.3 volt slot when in fact the video card could also have accepted 1.5 volts. That card would work correctly in an AGP 3.3V motherboard but it also would have worked in a 1.5 volt motherboard had it been given the 1.5 volt slot. There also was a SiS video card manufactured years ago which had the wrong voltage slots. If you plugged it into the wrong motherboard, it would be destroyed. The 'wrong slots' case used to be extremely rare and any manufacturer which made that mistake quickly acquired a very bad reputation. Unfortunately building AGP video cards with the wrong voltage slots is becoming more common. It's not difficult to find no-name, low-budget, Chinese video cards on EBAY which have the 3.3 volt slot despite the fact that the graphics chipset does not support 3.3 volts. It pays to stick with competent manufacturers. As long as they obey the AGP spec, you cannot damage anything by plugging a video card into a motherboard.
Graphics Card | Graphics Card Type |
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ATI FireGL 1 | AGP 3.3V Card |
ATI FireGL 2 | Universal AGP Card |
ATI FireGL 3 | Universal AGP Card |
ATI FireGL 4 | Universal AGP Card |
ATI FireGL 8700 | Universal AGP Card |
ATI FireGL 8800 | Universal AGP Card |
ATI FireGL T2 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Card |
ATI FireGL X1 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Card |
ATI FireGL X1-256p | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Card |
ATI FireGL X2-256t | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Card |
ATI FireGL Z1 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Card |
ATI Radeon Mac Edition | Universal AGP Card? |
ATI Radeon (Radeon 32, Radeon 64, All In Wonder Radeon) | Universal AGP Card |
ATI Radeon VE | Universal AGP Card |
ATI Radeon 7000 | Universal AGP Card |
ATI Radeon 7200 | Universal AGP Card |
ATI Radeon 7500 | Universal AGP Card |
ATI Radeon 8500 | Universal AGP Card |
ATI Radeon 9000 | Universal AGP Card |
ATI Radeon 9200 | Universal AGP 3.0 Card |
ATI Radeon 9250 | Universal AGP 3.0 Card |
ATI Radeon 9500 | Universal AGP 3.0 Card |
ATI Radeon 9550 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Card |
ATI Radeon 9600 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Card |
ATI Radeon 9700 | Universal AGP 3.0 Card |
ATI Radeon 9800 | |
ATI Radeon X800 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Card |
ATI Radeon X850 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Card |
ATI Rage 128 (Xpert 99, Xpert 128, Xpert 2000, All In Wonder 128, Rage Fury, Rage Magnum) | AGP 3.3V Card |
ATI Rage 128 Pro (Xpert 2000 Pro, Rage Fury Pro, All In Wonder 128 Pro) | Universal AGP Card |
ATI Rage Fury Max | AGP 3.3V Card |
ATI Rage LT Pro (Xpert LCD) | AGP 3.3V Card |
ATI Rage Pro (Xpert 98, Xpert XL, All In Wonder Pro, Turbo) | AGP 3.3V Card |
Matrox G200 | AGP 3.3V Card |
Matrox G400 | |
Matrox G450 | Universal AGP Card |
Matrox G550 | Universal AGP Card |
Matrox P650 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Card |
Matrox P750 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Card |
Matrox Parhelia | |
NVIDIA GeForce 256 | Universal AGP Card |
NVIDIA GeForce 6200 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Card |
NVIDIA GeForce 6600 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Card |
NVIDIA GeForce 6800 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Card |
NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GS | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Card |
NVIDIA GeForce FX5200 | Universal AGP 3.0 Card |
NVIDIA GeForce FX5500 | Universal AGP 3.0 Card |
NVIDIA GeForce FX5600 | Universal AGP 3.0 Card |
NVIDIA GeForce FX5700 | Universal AGP 3.0 Card |
NVIDIA GeForce FX5800 | Universal AGP 3.0 Card |
NVIDIA GeForce FX5900 | Universal AGP 3.0 Card |
NVIDIA GeForce FX5950 | Universal AGP 3.0 Card |
NVIDIA GeForce2 | Universal AGP Card |
NVIDIA GeForce2 MX400 | Universal AGP Card |
NVIDIA GeForce3 | Universal AGP Card |
NVIDIA GeForce4 MX4000 | Universal AGP 3.0 Card |
NVIDIA GeForce4 MX420 | Universal AGP Card |
NVIDIA GeForce4 MX440 | Universal AGP Card |
NVIDIA GeForce4 MX440-8 | Universal AGP 3.0 Card |
NVIDIA GeForce4 MX460 | Universal AGP Card |
NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti4200 | Universal AGP Card |
NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti4200-8 | Universal AGP 3.0 Card |
NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti4400 | Universal AGP Card |
NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti4600 | Universal AGP Card |
NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti4600-8 | Universal AGP 3.0 Card |
NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti4800 | Universal AGP 3.0 Card |
NVIDIA Riva 128ZX | AGP 3.3V Card |
NVIDIA Riva TNT | AGP 3.3V Card |
NVIDIA Riva TNT 2 |
AGP Motherboards
There are a few motherboards which do not use the correct AGP connector. This AOpen AK79G Max is a universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 motherboard and yet it has an AGP universal connector which accepts 3.3 volt cards. Fortunately, it also has circuitry which prevents damage when a 3.3 volt AGP card is inserted and lights up an LED to warn you that the video card is a 3.3 volt card. I think they built the motherboard this way as a defense against video cards with incorrect voltage slots. You can't damage the motherboard or video card even if the video card has the wrong voltage slots with this kind of design.
You may also come across the occasional motherboard which has an AGP universal connector covered by a sticker which says 'do not insert 3.3 volt cards'. According to the specification, they shouldn't do that. Perhaps they didn't want to go to the trouble of keeping 1.5 volt keyed connectors in stock. It's a shame users have to be careful about this because if manufacturers obeyed the specification, it wouldn't be possible to make a mistake.
I also found a picture of a motherboard from one obscure manufacturer which had a universal AGP connector rather than the 1.5 volt keyed connector that it should have had. I doubt it had any circuitry to prevent damage if you inserted a 3.3 volt card and there was no hint that you shouldn't insert one. It's a good idea to stick with established manufacturers. But that was only one motherboard out of hundreds I've looked at. If you're buying a motherboard from someone you've never heard of, it might be a good idea to check that they've used the right AGP connector.
The table below lists the AGP motherboard type for just about all the consumer-oriented motherboard chipsets. There isn't a single 'AGP 3.0 Motherboard' chipset in the list. If you're not sure what kind of chipset is in your motherboard, then you can use CPU-Z or Sandra Lite to find out. Also remember that even if a chipset supports AGP, it doesn't mean that a motherboard using that chipset will always have an AGP slot. Some low-end motherboards using AGP chipsets leave out the AGP connector to cut costs.
Motherboard Chipset | Motherboard Kind |
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ALi TXPro (Aladdin IV) | no AGP slot |
ALi Aladdin V | AGP 3.3V Motherboard |
ALi MAGiK 1 (M1647) | Universal AGP Motherboard |
ALi M1649 | Universal AGP Motherboard |
AMD 750 (751) | AGP 3.3V Motherboard |
AMD 760 (761) | Universal AGP Motherboard |
Intel 440BX | AGP 3.3V Motherboard |
Intel 440EX | AGP 3.3V Motherboard |
Intel 440FX | no AGP slot |
Intel 440GX | AGP 3.3V Motherboard |
Intel 440LX | AGP 3.3V Motherboard |
Intel 440ZX | AGP 3.3V Motherboard |
Intel 440ZX-66 | AGP 3.3V Motherboard |
Intel 450GX | no AGP slot |
Intel 450KX | no AGP slot |
Intel 450NX | no AGP slot |
Intel 810 | no AGP slot |
Intel 815 | Universal AGP Motherboard |
Intel 820 | Universal AGP Motherboard |
Intel 840 | Universal AGP Motherboard |
Intel 845 | AGP 1.5V Motherboard |
Intel 848 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
Intel 850 | AGP 1.5V Motherboard |
Intel 860 | AGP 1.5V Motherboard |
Intel 865 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
Intel 875 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
Intel 910 | no AGP slot |
Intel 915 | no AGP slot: PCI-Express |
Intel 925 | no AGP slot: PCI-Express |
Intel E7210 | no AGP slot |
Intel E7221 | no AGP slot |
Intel E7320 | no AGP slot |
Intel E7500 | no AGP slot |
Intel E7501 | no AGP slot |
Intel E7505 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
Intel E7520 | no AGP slot |
Intel E7525 | no AGP slot: PCI-Express |
NVIDIA NForce | AGP 1.5V Motherboard |
NVIDIA NForce 2 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
NVIDIA NForce 3 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
NVIDIA NForce 4 | no AGP slot: PCI-Express |
SiS630 | Universal AGP Motherboard |
SiS645 | Universal AGP Motherboard |
SiS648 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
SiS649 | no AGP slot: PCI-Express |
SiS650 | Universal AGP Motherboard |
SiS651 | Universal AGP Motherboard |
SiS655 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
SiS656 | no AGP slot: PCI-Express |
SiS661 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
SiS730 | Universal AGP Motherboard |
SiS733 | Universal AGP Motherboard |
SiS735 | Universal AGP Motherboard |
SiS740 | no AGP slot |
SiS741 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
SiS745 | Universal AGP Motherboard |
SiS746 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
SiS748 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
SiS755 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
SiS756 | no AGP slot: PCI-Express |
SiS760 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
VIA CLE266 | no AGP slot |
VIA CN400 | no AGP slot |
VIA K8M800 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
VIA K8T800 (VT8385) | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
VIA K8T800 Pro | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
VIA K8T890 | no AGP slot: PCI-Express |
VIA KLE133 (VT8361) | no AGP slot |
VIA KM133 (VT8365) | Universal AGP Motherboard |
VIA KM266 (VT8375) | Universal AGP Motherboard |
VIA KM400 (VT8378) | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
VIA KT133 (VT8363) | Universal AGP Motherboard |
VIA KT266 (VT8366) | Universal AGP Motherboard |
VIA KT333 (VT8367) | Universal AGP Motherboard (but some implementations are AGP 1.5V Motherboard) |
VIA KT400 (VT8377) | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
VIA KT600 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
VIA KT880 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
VIA KX133 (VT8371) | Universal AGP Motherboard |
VIA MVP3 (VT82C598AT) | AGP 3.3V Motherboard |
VIA P4M266 (VT8751) | Universal AGP Motherboard (but most implementations are AGP 1.5V Motherboard) |
VIA P4X266 (VT8753) | Universal AGP Motherboard |
VIA P4X266A (VT8752) | Universal AGP Motherboard |
VIA P4X333 (VT8754) | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
VIA P4X400 (VT8754) | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
VIA P4X533 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
VIA PLE133 (VT8601A) | no AGP slot |
VIA PLE133T (VT8602) | no AGP slot |
VIA PM133 (VT8605) | Universal AGP Motherboard |
VIA PM800 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
VIA PM880 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
VIA Pro (VT82C691) | AGP 3.3V Motherboard |
VIA Pro 133 (VT82C693A) | AGP 3.3V Motherboard |
VIA Pro 133A (VT82C694X) | Universal AGP Motherboard |
VIA Pro 266 (VT8633) | Universal AGP Motherboard |
VIA PT800 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
VIA PT880 | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
VIA PT880 Pro | Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Motherboard |
VIA PT894 | no AGP slot: PCI-Express |
VIA PT894 Pro | no AGP slot: PCI-Express |
Final Words
Keep in mind that there are plenty of things which can go wrong when you plug an AGP card into an AGP motherboard. Just because they're supposed to be compatible doesn't mean that they're going to work. The information given above just tells you about their signaling voltage and speed compatibility. There are other problems which can prevent video cards and motherboards from working together that have nothing to do with the issues listed above.
Pseudo AGP Implementations
Page 31 - AGP 2.0 spec
The corelogic is required to support all signals required to:
1. Allow the A.G.P. master to enqueue requests and
2. Transfer data at 1x or 2x.
The corelogic may optionally support:
1. Data transfers at 4x or
2. Fast Write (FW) transactions to the A.G.P. master.
The A.G.P. master may optionally choose:
1. How it enqueues requests or
2. The rate at which it transfers data or
3. If it supports FW transactions.
Page 184 - AGP 2.0 spec
The A.G.P. interface can be classified by its signaling voltage level and maximum transfer rate capability.Interoperability of a particular add-in card with a particular motherboard is dependent only on the signaling levels.Signaling level is determined by the value of the Vddq I/O interface voltage. If the add-in card and the motherboardhave the same Vddq or if the motherboard has a universal connector, the add-in card will work with themotherboard. A key in the A.G.P. connector prevents add-in cards from being plugged into an incompatiblemotherboard. Universal connectors have no key and will accept either 1.5 or 3.3 volt Vddq add-in cards. TheTYPEDET# pin on the add-in card tells the universal motherboard which value of Vddq is to be supplied to theinterfaces as described above.A given part will also have a maximum transfer rate capability. However, every A.G.P. agent must be capable ofoperating at all lower transfer rates as well (i.e., a 4x mode part must also work at 2x and 1x rates). The transfer rateactually used is determined at configuration time and is likely to be the largest common rate between the A.G.P.master and target.
Page 42 - AGP 3.0 spec
AGPSTAT makes it look like you can have an AGP 3.0 8X only, AGP 3.0 4X only, orAGP 3.0 8X,4X
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The Accelerated Graphics Port (also called Advanced Graphics Port) is a high-speed point-to-point channel for attaching a single device (generally a graphics card) to a computers motherboard, primarily to assist in the acceleration of 3D computer graphics. Many classify AGP as a type of computer bus, but this is something of a misnomer since buses generally allow multiple devices to be connected, while AGP does not. AGP originated from Intel, and it was first built into a chipset for the Pentium II microprocessor. AGP cards generally slightly exceed PCI cards in length and can be recognized by a typical hook at the inner end of the connector, which does not exist on PCI cards. Nowdays AGP is almost replaced by PCI-Express.
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AGP versions:
- AGP 1.0: 3.3 volts signaling with speed multipliers 1x (267MB/s), 2x (533MB/s)
- AGP 2.0: 1.5 volts signaling with speed multipliers 1x (267MB/s), 2x (533MB/s), 4x (1067MB/s)
- AGP 3.0: 0.8 volts signaling with speed multipliers 4x (1067MB/s), 8x (2133MB/s)
In addition, in the world of workstations different AGP Pro cards exist with extra connectors which allow card to draw more power. In order to make life easier, the AGP standard defines some backward compatibilty. The AGP 1.0 specification requires that all implementations support the 1x speed multiplier at 3.3 volts. By default, when the AGP 1.0 machine powers up it selects the fastest speed multiplier supported by both the video card and the motherboard. If they both support 2x then they will run at 2x. Otherwise they run at 1x which is always implemented by all AGP 1.0 video cards and motherboards. The AGP 2.0 specification has a similar requirement. 2x and 1x support at 1.5 volts are required and 4x support is optional. The AGP 3.0 specification requires support for 8x. The 3.0 specification isn't as clear as the 1.0 and 2.0 specifications on the subject of requiring the lower multiplier but all AGP 3.0 almost all implementations support both 8x and 4x. As a result, you can completely ignore speed multipliers when you're checking for compatibility between an AGP video card and an AGP motherboard. If the video card and motherboard both support the same signaling voltage then there is always at least one common speed multiplier supported by both at that voltage. You only need to make sure that the video card and motherboard have at least one signaling voltage in common.
AGP cards and slots
Graphics Card Types | Connector Type* | Description |
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AGP 3.3V Card | 3.3V slot | Supports only 3.3V signaling. Available speeds 1x, 2x. |
AGP 1.5V Card | 1.5V slot | Supports only 1.5V signaling. Available speeds 1x, 2x, 4x. |
Universal AGP Card | Double slotted | Supports 3.3V and 1.5V signaling. Available speeds 1x, 2x at 3.3V and 1x, 2x, 4x at 1.5V. |
AGP 3.0 Card | 1.5V slot | Supports only 0.8V signaling. Available speeds 4x, 8x. |
Universal 1.5V AGP 3.0 Card | 1.5V slot | Supports 1.5V and 0.8V signaling. Available speeds 1x, 2x, 4x at 1.5V and 4x, 8x at 0.8V. |
Universal AGP 3.0 Card | Double slotted | Supports AGP 3.3v, 1.5V, and 0.8V signaling. Available speeds 1x, 2x at 3.3V and 1x, 2x, 4x at 1.5V and 4x, 8x at 0.8V. |
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*Different slots connectors have different position of key
The AGP connectors on the motherboard are keyed to prevent insertion of AGP cards which would be damaged if plugged in. An AGP 3.3V motherboard connector can only accept AGP cards which have the 3.3V slot. If you try to insert a card without a 3.3V slot into an AGP 3.3V motherboard connector, the card will bump into the connector key and cannot be inserted. Likewise an AGP 1.5V motherboard connector can only accept AGP cards with the 1.5V slot. An AGP universal motherboard connector has no keys and therefore can accept any kind of AGP card. An AGP card with both voltage slots can be plugged into any kind of AGP motherboard connector. If you can plug an AGP card into an AGP motherboard connector, then neither the card nor the motherboard will be damaged (assuming they obey the AGP specifications).
AGP pinout
3.3 Volt Boards | Universal Boards | 1.5 Volt Boards | ||||
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Pin # | Side A | Side B | Side A | Side B | Side A | Side B |
1 | +12V | OVRCNT# | +12V | OVRCNT# | +12V | OVRCNT# |
2 | TYPEDET# | +5.0V | TYPEDET# | +5.0V | TYPEDET# | +5.0V |
3 | Reserved | 5.0V | Reserved | 5.0V | Reserved | 5.0V |
4 | USB- | USB+ | USB- | USB+ | USB- | USB+ |
5 | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground |
6 | INTA# | INTB# | INTA# | INTB# | INTA# | INTB# |
7 | RST# | CLK | RST# | CLK | RST# | CLK |
8 | GNT# | REQ# | GNT# | REQ# | GNT# | REQ# |
9 | VCC 3.3 | VCC 3.3 | VCC 3.3 | VCC 3.3 | VCC 3.3 | VCC 3.3 |
10 | ST1 | ST0 | ST1 | ST0 | ST1 | ST0 |
11 | Reserved | ST2 | Reserved | ST2 | Reserved | ST2 |
12 | PIPE# | RBF# | PIPE# | RBF# | PIPE# | RBF# |
13 | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground |
14 | Reserved | Reserved | WBF# | Reserved | WBF# | Reserved |
15 | SBA1 | SBA0 | SBA1 | SBA0 | SBA1 | SBA0 |
16 | VCC 3.3 | VCC 3.3 | VCC 3.3 | VCC 3.3 | VCC 3.3 | VCC 3.3 |
17 | SBA3 | SBA2 | SBA3 | SBA2 | SBA3 | SBA2 |
18 | Reserved | SB_STB | SB_STB# | SB_STB | SB_STB# | SB_STB |
19 | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground |
20 | SBA5 | SBA4 | SBA5 | SBA4 | SBA5 | SBA4 |
21 | SBA7 | SBA6 | SBA7 | SBA6 | SBA7 | SBA6 |
22 | Key | Key | Reserved | Reserved | Reserved | Reserved |
23 | Key | Key | GROUND | GROUND | GROUND | GROUND |
24 | Key | Key | Reserved | 3.3Vaux | Reserved | 3.3Vaux |
25 | Key | Key | Vcc 3.3 | Vcc 3.3 | Vcc 3.3 | Vcc 3.3 |
26 | AD30 | AD31 | AD30 | AD31 | AD30 | AD31 |
27 | AD28 | AD29 | AD28 | AD29 | AD28 | AD29 |
28 | VCC 3.3 | VCC 3.3 | VCC 3.3 | VCC 3.3 | VCC 3.3 | VCC 3.3 |
29 | AD26 | AD27 | AD26 | AD27 | AD26 | AD27 |
30 | AD24 | AD25 | AD24 | AD25 | AD24 | AD25 |
31 | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground |
32 | Reserved | AD STB1 | AD STB1# | AD STB1 | AD STB1# | AD STB1 |
33 | C/BE3# | AD23 | C/BE3# | AD23 | C/BE3# | AD23 |
34 | Vddq 3.3 | Vddq 3.3 | Vddq | Vddq | Vddq 1.5 | Vddq 1.5 |
35 | AD22 | AD21 | AD22 | AD21 | AD22 | AD21 |
36 | AD20 | AD19 | AD20 | AD19 | AD20 | AD19 |
37 | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground |
38 | AD18 | AD17 | AD18 | AD17 | AD18 | AD17 |
39 | AD16 | C/BE2# | AD16 | C/BE2# | AD16 | C/BE2# |
40 | Vddq 3.3 | Vddq 3.3 | Vddq | Vddq | Vddq 1.5 | Vddq 1.5 |
41 | FRAME# | IRDY# | FRAME# | IRDY# | FRAME# | IRDY# |
42 | Reserved | 3.3Vaux | Reserved | 3.3Vaux | KEY | KEY |
43 | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground | KEY | KEY |
44 | Reserved | Reserved | Reserved | Reserved | KEY | KEY |
45 | VCC 3.3 | VCC 3.3 | VCC 3.3 | VCC 3.3 | KEY | KEY |
46 | TRDY# | DEVSEL# | TRDY# | DEVSEL# | TRDY# | DEVSEL# |
47 | STOP# | Vddq 3.3 | STOP# | Vddq | STOP# | Vddq 1.5 |
48 | PME# | PERR# | PME# | PERR# | PME# | PERR# |
49 | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground |
50 | PAR | SERR# | PAR | SERR# | PAR | SERR# |
51 | AD15 | C/BE1# | AD15 | C/BE1# | AD15 | C/BE1# |
52 | Vddq 3.3 | Vddq 3.3 | Vddq | Vddq | Vddq 1.5 | Vddq 1.5 |
53 | AD13 | AD14 | AD13 | AD14 | AD13 | AD14 |
54 | AD11 | AD12 | AD11 | AD12 | AD11 | AD12 |
55 | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground |
56 | AD9 | AD10 | AD9 | AD10 | AD9 | AD10 |
57 | C/BE0# | AD8 | C/BE0# | AD8 | C/BE0# | AD8 |
58 | Vddq 3.3 | Vddq 3.3 | Vddq | Vddq | Vddq 1.5 | Vddq 1.5 |
59 | Reserved | AD STB0 | Reserved | AD STB0# | Reserved | AD STB0# |
60 | AD6 | AD7 | AD6 | AD7 | AD6 | AD7 |
61 | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground | Ground |
A62 | AD4 | AD5 | AD4 | AD5 | AD4 | AD5 |
63 | AD2 | AD3 | AD2 | AD3 | AD2 | AD3 |
64 | Vddq 3.3 | Vddq 3.3 | Vddq | Vddq | Vddq 1.5 | Vddq 1.5 |
65 | AD0 | AD1 | AD0 | AD1 | AD0 | AD1 |
66 | Reserved | Reserved | Vrefgc | Vrefcg | Vrefgc | Vrefcg |
The AGP bus is 32 bits wide, just the same as PCI is, but instead of running at half the system (memory) bus speed the way PCI does, it runs at full bus speed. This means that on a standard Pentium II motherboard AGP runs at 66 MHz instead of the PCI buss 33 MHz. This of course immediately doubles the bandwidth of the port; instead of the limit of 127.2 MB/s as with PCI, AGP in its lowest speed mode has a bandwidth of 254.3 MB/s. The AGP specification is in fact based on the PCI 2.1 specification, which includes a high-bandwidth 66 MHz speed.